Questions
Oxford said no. Cambridge said yes
Two rejections from Oxford, an offer from Cambridge, and a file of letters that can’t quite agree who the applicant was.
Covers: The correspondence of one applicant for English, across successive applications to Oxford and Cambridge.
The reading
One changes sides more than once reading this file. The teacher who prepared the applicant for Oxford found the comments “always interesting and good”; one of the two colleges that said no found a candidate who “struggled to respond to questions”; and the applicant, reading that, didn’t recognise the description. Then Pembroke, Cambridge, made an unconditional offer to read English, and the matter seems settled. It isn’t, quite. Read side by side, the friendliest advice in the file and Oxford’s first rejection are getting at something similar, and for anyone puzzling over an Oxbridge letter of their own that may be the most useful thing here: the criticism worth taking seriously is often the one the people on your side have been making too, only more gently.
On this page
Oxford
Whatever went wrong at Oxford, it wasn’t for want of help. The applicant had a teacher, an Oxford-trained scholar who had taught English at a university and at a leading independent school, who went through poems with them and praised the readings so often that, reading the file now, one starts to wait for the next compliment. She was also the sort of teacher who will talk a pupil out of a lesson: when her pupil wondered about having another, she suggested spending the time reading instead, and dipping into poems, which is about as clear a sign as a teacher can give that she thinks the work is done.
There was a mock interview, too, with an interviewer who had a doctorate in literature and university teaching behind her, and who came away impressed. The debrief, which the teacher wrote up once she had spoken to the interviewer, is brisk and encouraging, with the advice every English applicant hears sooner or later about reading for pleasure and filling the gaps in one’s literary knowledge. It also contains a line that deserves to outlive the rest – “feel more, don't think something is good just cos it is difficult” – which, “cos” and all, is better advice than a good deal of what is sold as interview coaching.
None of it was quite enough for Oxford. The first application, to one college, came to nothing, and part of what the college said survives only because the applicant wrote it down at the time – a piece of thoroughness one can admire without much wanting to copy. It is fair-minded feedback, as these things go: praise for the literary knowledge and the original observations, doubts about the textual support and about the response to alternative readings. Most people would read something like that once, wince, and put it in a drawer. It is worth keeping out here, because it comes back.
The second application went to a different college, and the teacher’s confidence went with it. “Every time we have gone through a poem you have been great,” she wrote shortly before the interview. “Your comments are always interesting and good.” Nobody would hold the “always” against her – teachers who ration their praise rarely get the best out of anybody – but Oxford, which doesn’t deal in “always”, said no again.
The written work, the tutors thought, had been strong; the interviews less so. One of them admired the writing and then found insufficient evidence of analytical clarity, and of the capacity to exchange and develop ideas, “in a very competitive field”. It is the only reminder anywhere in the file that other people were applying too, and there must have been a great many of them. That is the trouble with feedback of this kind. The decision is made about a whole field of candidates and the letter that follows is written to one of them, so very little of the comparison ever reaches the person who most wants to understand it.
Another letter, from one of the colleges, was blunter: “You struggled to respond to questions and instead seemed to rely on prepared material.” After everything that had gone before – the scholar, the poems, the mock interview, the debrief – there is something almost comic in that, as if the candidate had been marked down for doing the homework. It can’t have felt comic at the time.
The applicant wrote back, which takes some nerve, and the letter is puzzled and rather touching. They had felt they were developing ideas during the conversation. Perhaps they had talked too much, they suggested, or referring to their notes might have given an impression of rehearsal. They remembered enjoying the poem. And then comes the sentence that anyone who has ever read a school report about themselves will understand: “I do not recognise this English student in myself.”
We’ll never know whether the college or the applicant was nearer the truth about that interview. The file has one side’s account of how the answers sounded and the other’s of how they felt, and nothing at all of the conversation itself. What it does have is the reply. The tutor who wrote back was kind: the paper application, she said, had been strong, and the absence of offers so far was unlucky, and she suggested finding more chances to discuss ideas with other students. To put a rejection down to luck, when one’s own college has just made it, is a generous thing to do, and there’s no reason to think she didn’t mean it.
Cambridge
By the time Cambridge came round there had been more study and more preparation, this time with a former head of English, whose emails have a cheerful schoolmasterly bounce to them. He found the readings consistently interesting, but he wanted the explanations better arranged, and he said so in a sentence that could only have come from a former head of English: “I'd like you to get the straightforward stuff clearly laid out as the foundation for the superstructure!”
Exclamation mark aside, it is a kinder way of saying something Oxford had already said. Two applications earlier, the first college had praised the original observations and doubted the textual support, and here, from someone entirely on the applicant’s side, is much the same thought, dressed up as architecture and sent with encouragement instead of a rejection. Different readers, of course, with more work in between, and it would be easy to make too much of it. But it is hard to read the two together without feeling that Oxford had a point, and that the friendlier voices in the file had been making it too, only more gently.
He was confident all along. After the interview, with the result still unknown, he wrote: “You were ready for whatever they had to throw at you.” It is not, one notices, how Oxford had described the same applicant facing questions, and Pembroke evidently agreed with him: the offer, to read English, was unconditional. Told the news, he called it “a sure thing”, which is the safest kind of forecast, since it was made after the event, and then, careful man that he was, added a reservation about how much certainty was possible.
So which was the real English student: the one in Oxford’s letter, who struggled with questions and leaned on prepared material, or the one the teachers kept praising? The applicant didn’t recognise the first. Pembroke, it seems, never met them – perhaps because, by then, there was no one of that description left to meet.
Sources and limits
- About this case: The Schools Record has reviewed private correspondence and admissions documents from the period. Some of the earlier Oxford feedback survives as a transcription the applicant made at the time; the mock-interview debrief is a teacher’s report, written after she had spoken to the interviewer. We verified the later unconditional Cambridge offer in the original admissions email. Personal names, exact dates and other identifying details are withheld, and the source record itself remains private.
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